Cream City Catholic Interviews Michael Voris

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by David Nussman  •  •  November 13, 2018   

Milwaukee-based Catholic site asks about homosexualist bishops, alleged satanism at the Vatican

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MILWAUKEE, Wis. ( - In Milwaukee, Cream City Catholic sat down for an interview with Michael Voris about the crisis in the Church.

In an interview published on Cream City Catholic on Tuesday, Cream City Catholic's Jake Ross asked Michael Voris about what he means by "homosexualist" bishops.

Voris explained that there are some bishops who are not homosexual themselves but have a "misplaced sense of compassion" for fellow clergy who are homosexual.

The discussion shifted to the role of the laity in confronting the crisis in the Church today. Voris noted the importance of laity who are willing to correct clergy who are in error, saying, "You'd offer correction to your own son or brother or somebody. Why wouldn't you offer correction to a man who can influence multiple souls, perhaps thousands — and in some cases of bishops, millions?"

"Why wouldn't you say something to them?" Voris asked.

"Sounds like the Catholic thing to do," commented Ross.

Next, they discussed the future of the Church in the years to come, considering the continued rapid decline in Mass attendance. Voris predicted, "I think the Church in the United States will probably be extinct in 10 years."

Ross asked, "What do you mean by 'extinct?'"

Voris referred to a now-famous prediction made by then-Msgr. Joseph Ratzinger in a German radio broadcast in 1969. Ratzinger said:

From the crisis of today the Church of tomorrow will emerge — a Church that has lost much. She will become small and will have to start afresh more or less from the beginning. She will no longer be able to inhabit many of the edifices she built in prosperity. As the number of her adherents diminishes, so it will lose many of her social privileges. In contrast to an earlier age, it will be seen much more as a voluntary society, entered only by free decision. As a small society, it will make much bigger demands on the initiative of her individual members.

Voris noted that this will not be an overnight change, but the result of a gradual collapse with bishops simply "managing the decline" for decades, closing parishes and establishing parish clusters.

They went on to talk about the selling of religious orders' properties and other Church properties.

At one point Voris opined, "This is the problem, I think, with lots of bishops today, and lots of clergy. ... They sort of approach the Church as though it's their own personal property."

He later added, "They are stewards of something from Almighty God, for the people. They are stewards of it. They are not the owners of it."

They are stewards of something from Almighty God, for the people. They are stewards of it. They are not the owners of it.

Finally, Ross asked Voris about allegations he reported on while in Rome last month about secretive satanic circles including people connected to the Vatican. Voris confirmed that the allegations are credible.

After some discussion, Ross noted, "They're raping, allegedly raping, young men. Is it that much of a stretch to consider that they're doing some type of satanic rituals?"

Their conversation returned to the demographic collapse of Catholicism in the United States. Voris argued that the decline of religious orders and the sales of Church properties and institutions (such as Catholic hospitals) are diminishing Catholicism's presence in American mainstream culture.

He predicted, "You will have to go looking for Catholic presence in 10 years."

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